

“We made a bit of a habit of that actually.” “The English did not behave very well, I’m afraid,” he says. Just to add to the sense of anomaly that comes with imagining Charles Dance at a dump – then reckoning with him not being especially high-born – we begin to consider the matter of Oliver Cromwell. A 2016 episode of Who Do You Think You Are? – which revealed that his great-great-grandmother, a laundress, had seven children with his great-great-grandfather, a laundryman, despite being married to other people – confirmed his lack of courtly ancestry. He attributes his screen and stage grandeur to something about the way his “face is put together”. And if the writing is good and the villain is three-dimensional, well, that’s the most fun. In 2016 he and other working-class actors voiced concerns about the lack of opportunities for state school-educated actors. He attended Widey technical school for boys in Plymouth. His mother was a parlourmaid who started work at 13. He is not, despite many turns as a toff and an OBE, anywhere near in line for the throne. “Appearances can be deceiving,” laughs the actor.

We’re accustomed to seeing Dance in posh circles, whether in the diplomatic corps in Plenty, as the reigning king in stoner comedy Your Highness, or as Lord Mountbatten in The Crown. Or perhaps casting directors are to blame. Today, he calls me as he approaches a local dump, a location that, despite his versatility as an actor, must feature on any top 10 list of things one can’t picture Charles Dance doing. Remember that moment in Game of Thrones when the tyrannical Tywin Lannister was shot by his own son with a crossbow while on the loo? Well, Charles Dance, the actor behind the monstrous monarch, is managing something that’s just as incongruous if not quite so ignominious.
